Calendario GW y futuros proyectos. MUY interesante

[DocSavage]

De Marcus Belli


This invariably gets asked about and the old thread on the subject is woefully out of date, so I thought it best with an update.

First a little on editions, new and old
We are now into a period where the rulebook itselves changes very little from edition to edition, and so all army books remain valid when a new rulebook comes out. It is not like how some armies at the tail end of 5th edition were invalidated after half a year. Invalidating all or most of the army books would mean a great loss of profit for GW and for that reason alone it would not happen.

A vocal minority of players would like to see all army books being invalidated at the start of an edition, the idea being to start from scratch and rebalance the books better. Not only would this not happen due to economic reasons, but experience from 6th edition has shown that this isn't any kind of guarantee of getting balanced army books anyway!


Order of army books that were released during 6th edition
Empire (oct 2000)
Orcs & Goblins (nov 2000)
Dwarfs (jan 2001)
Vampire Counts (apr 2001)
Dark Elves (jun 2001)
High Elves (jan 2002)
Skaven (mar 2002)
Hordes of Chaos (jun 2002)
Tomb Kings (jan 2003)
Lizardmen (may 2003)
Beasts of Chaos (aug 2003)
Bretonnia (feb 2004)
Ogre Kingdoms (jan 2005)
Wood Elves (aug 2005)
Dwarfs* (mar 2006)
*redo
Note that the last couple of books were written when the 7th edition rules were almost completely done and so they work much better under 7th edition than most other 6th edition armies. For that reason they are not very likely to get an update at all in 7th edition and will more likely be redone in early 8th edition.


Army books released so far during 7th edition
Orcs & Goblins (oct 2006)
Empire (jan 2007)
High Elves (nov 2007)
Vampire Counts (mar 2008)
Daemons of Chaos (may 2008)
Dark Elves (aug 2008)


Upcoming known army books (in order)
Warriors of Chaos (nov 2008)
Lizardmen (feb/mar 2009)
Skaven (apr/may 2009)
Beasts of Chaos (autumn 2009)


Army books just behind the horizon (order not known)
Tomb Kings (late 2009 or early 2010)
Ogre Kingdoms (late 2009 or early 2010)
Bretonnia (late 2009 or early 2010)
Note that releases more than a year away are always subject to change, so we can only know things that are reasonably close for certain anyway.

8th edition
At the moment it looks like 8th edition will hit us medio 2010, with a release schedule probably similar to what Warhammer 40K had in 2008 - a new rulebook in july(ish) and a new starter set in september(ish). Most army books will have been released by that time, the starter set will be four years old (common lifespan for an edition of the core games is 4 years) and GW will likely want to put out a new, fresh one to attract new customers and tempt the veterans with deals that are "just to good not to get, even if I don't play either of the two armies". It is important to understand that new editions are primarily made to keep the excitement about the game high and NOT primarily about balancing anything. So expect rule tweaks to make the game more immersive and intuitve first and foremost.

The starter set will almost certainly include two set starter forces, quite different from each other. It will most likely be one "goodie" and one "baddie". The odds of it being Orcs & Goblins versus Empire are quite high.

Wild suggestions that will certainly crop up are:
- all existing army books will be invalidated (rubbish)
- Warhammer might switch to a D10 system instead of D6 (rubbish)
- the turn order might change from I Go, You Go to some kind of integrated system (rubbish)
- the game background might change dramatically, with the Empire being conquered by Chaos or something similar (rubbish)
These things always turn up when a new edition is underway and should be regarded with a healty dose of skepticism.


Army books or projects far off or uncertain
Dwarfs (early 8th edition?)
Wood Elves (early 8th edition?)
Chaos Dwarfs (unknown if even planned for)
Dogs of War (unknown if even planned for)


New army books for entirely new or forgotten armies
Though Fishmen, Hobgoblins, Araby, Nippon, Cathay and Ind are more and more frequently mentioned in the army books (the Warriors of Chaos book mentions them all), the chance of any getting any army book any time soon is very low.

[DocSavage]

Por cierto, donde pone "rubbish" quiere decir que son tonterías.

[elmasmalo]

¿Y la fuente original? Por ver como es de fiable todo esto.
Las fechas se adaptan a lo lógico, de todas maneras.

[DocSavage]

No lo ponía, pero todo tiene muchísima lógica.

[MSNbot Media]

Yo por ejemplo el orden de primero lagartos y luego skavens lo había visto en otro foro donde lo dijo un tipo que suele acertar mucho,comentaban...

Lo de que warhammer se convierta en sistema D10 me parece curioso...aunque más interesante será para ellos al volver a vender mas dadicos...

[kobayishi]

Y de las renovaciones de 40K no se sabe nada?

[W3C [Validator]]

Lo de la lista de ejércitos que van a salir ya te lo confirmo yo, que hace tiempo que se sabe.
También os puedo decir que el año que viene van a salir más minis de ejércitos que ya han salido (especialmente demonios, aunque habrá otro ejército más con minis nuevas).
Con respecto a la nueva edición de 2008, saldrá en 2010, y elfos silvanos saldrá en 2011 (casi confirmado). Nadie sabe donde aparecerá Bretonia, pero tal y como apuntó Doc antes, aparecerán los mercenarios seguro.

[Steeler [Crawler]]

Pues muchas de esas cosas apuntadas como tonterias, yo las veo de lo mas logicas.

Sistema de 10, creo recordar que en la antiguedad, o por lo menos en el rogue trader era asi..... no me hagais mucho caso que lo tengo que mirar y no me apetece buscar en cajas ahora. Pero daria mas variedad a las caracteristicas de los bichos, que en algunos casos ya es hasta 10, y no serian todos tan iguales.

La posibilidad de cambio de turno, por ejemplo relacionada con la iniciativa general del ejercito mas un aleatorio (tirar un dado cada uno), nunca me ha parecido mal.

El tema de que el desarrollo "dramatico" del juego avance, me parece mas que necesario, ya que siempre estan lanzando campañas que "van a cambiar el universo tal como lo conocemos", y luego no pasa nada. Invasiones ya, muerte de personajes ya, contrainvasiones y reconquistas ya, nuevos heroes ya.

Lo otro, lo de invalidadar todos los ejercitos para sacarlos de nuevo, no seria la primera vez que lo hicieran, acordaros del "hordas invasoras".

Dicho todo esto, como veis, no lo veo tanta tonteria.

[WilliamFab]

La introduccion de un sistema de 1d10 me parece harto interesante puesto que daria un monton de juego por ejemplo a la salvacion de un enano con armadura pesada y escudo hechos por enanos, al mismo equipo puesto en por ejemplo un orco

[Rat2]

teoricmante en 2009 hay 2nd wave de memomios, AE y EO..principalnte d ememomios... de EO se comenta carro de plastico (seria logico para tener un carro con los nuevos gelidos "de serie" y heroe en jaco..q no ha habido ninguno desdetiempos inmemoriales